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greenygalSo apparently the rage-inducing comic of the week is ALL STAR BATMAN AND ROBIN. And I don't doubt that it was very rage-inducing indeed, but I didn't read it (actually, I'd forgotten it was coming out until the screaming started), and consequently, the book I want to take apart with a hammer is GREEN ARROW #52. Because I have Issues, oh yes.
--I have two thoughts about Zatanna on the cover: one, that costume doesn't usually come with garters, does it? And two, gee, her thighs are a little wider than a comic book woman's are generally permitted to be, aren't they? Really. Compare them with Ollie's. But I'm just nit-picking; this is really a lovely cover, and I would be ever so much happier if the inside art looked anything like it. The current art team on this book is portraying Connor not only as white but as ugly. I cannot help but feel that this is a crime against nature. (Side note: a completely different cover was shown in the solicitations for this book. I can't help but be amused that they changed it for a cover that's actually a spoiler, although not much of one.)
--Recap page: "There is Brick. The new crime boss of Star City. His activities occupied most of their time. Then a southern-fried android, dubbed the Duke of Oil entered the picture. Which was merely a ruse devised by Drakon...who was working for the Riddler." I admire Judd Winick's ability to type that with a straight face, I really do.
--I had totally forgotten everything about what was supposed to be in this issue, including that our heroes' house was blown up at the end of #50, so at the bottom of page one I was going, wow, did Star City throw them a parade? It still looks more like ticker-tape than flying debris to me.
--And then I turned the page and memory returned with a rush as I was smacked in the face with that picture, and much worse, that title. Oh, god. It's not "again," it's still, because they just won't let it drop, everything has to be retcons and death and betrayal and awfulness and doom and mass hysteria and cats and dogs living together and it can't even be cats and bats which would at least involve snark and hot sex but no-- *pause* Um. Right. Sorry about that. Back to the comic.
--So the house got blown up. It's totally a side issue, but that means all the stuff Ollie went around collecting in THE ARCHER'S QUEST got blown up too, right? Including that picture establishing that Ollie always knew about Connor? Right. Well, that's one potentially ticking bomb removed, then, although it's not as though Winick has been showing any signs of wanting to deal with that anyway. [ETA:![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
chiefseamonkey has pointed out that Ollie locked those things in a promethium-lined box at the end of AQ, so ignore this; the photo's still out there if anyone ever wants to use it, though I don't really expect them to.]
--I think--I hope--that Connor and Mia are not meant to seem quite as unruffled by the destruction of their home as they come off. I think it's meant to be exhaustion and shock, not to mention that Connor in particular is disinclined to hysterics in the face of disaster--but what it actually looks like is that they're on drugs. "They blew up our digs?" "Yes." "Wild."
--Ollie's increasingly red-faced rage, however, worked for me totally, and the creative team is best advised to savor that statement, because I won't be saying it again about this issue. Ollie is inclined to hysterics in the face of just about anything--oh, all right, Ollie, passionate outbursts, is that better?--and this is a hell of a justification. Not just for putting the capper on a downright terrible week, not just for messing with his home, but because the thought burning behind his eyes right now is: *We could have been in there. They could have been in there.* And someone is going to pay dearly for making him imagine that.
--Okay, back to the snark. "Am I sure of what?" "That they were after Oliver Queen, not Green Arrow." Okay, I have tried and tried to make sense of this statement, and I have been forced to conclude that Winick just got it backwards. I mean, it's Oliver Queen's house that got blown up, and Oliver Queen in his civilian clothes who was walking towards it, so if the bad guys were after Oliver Queen then Green Arrow would never enter into it at all and Ollie would have a completely different problem than the one he's about to get upset about. Right? So basically, Winick just isn't paying attention. Good to know.
--Wow, everyone really is ugly in this art style. My poor Wally.
--Oh, god. I should have seen this coming, I know, but it still took me off-guard: Ollie assumes the Face Of Doom and in what is no doubt a hushed, portentous whisper, announces "Someone knows who I am!"
*Carmen bangs head against her computer screen* YES! Yes, people DO know who you are, Ollie, like, oh, half the population of Seattle! And the CIA! It was a running joke under Mike Grell that everybody who really wanted knew perfectly well who Green Arrow really was! Look, DC, I'm sorry, I get that you want me to have amnesia and pretend that none of that ever happened so you can go back to the whole "Secret Identity or Death!" setup, but no matter how much you want it, I can't make myself just not have read the entire previous GREEN ARROW series. For that matter I can't even make myself not have read the opening storyline of this series--you know, the part where it takes Mia about ten seconds to clue in as to who this Oliver Queen guy is? Granted she had better hints than most people are going to get, but still. There's also the fairly obvious point that if Ollie actually wanted to protect his secret ID, he'd do something about that very distinctive beard and mustache--I feel a little bad picking on that, because it's well within the limits of comic book logic that nobody notices that, but if they're going to get this melodramatic about the subject then I might as well. It's not like it hasn't been pointed out by many, many other people. *clutches at head* Aie. We will be returning to this subject, oh yes.
--Is anyone else kind of bewildered at Ollie calling the Batcave "Xanadu"? I know he's being flippant, but that seems like a really strange nickname for the place to me.
--How does this book fit in with OMAC PROJECT, anyway? Never mind, don't know, don't care. Anyway, while the Batman Exposition of Doom is still clunky (and I hope it's relevant, and that we're not just recapping IDENTITY CRISIS for the fun of it), I give Winick credit for remembering to give this moment to the only character it works for. This is still new information to Wally, and it's perfectly understandable that having Ollie and Bruce in the same room makes him think of it; it's much more sensible than it would be for Ollie, to whom it's old news that he presumably has dealt with.
--Ah, Mia's school experience. I was sort of cautiously optimistic about this scene, actually; I don't think we've ever seen Mia in school except for The HIV Presentation, and I have no objections to some idea as to what she does in the parts of her life that don't involve spandex. And surprisingly it has nothing at all to do with her health; instead we've got the most bizarre attempt to talk someone into auditioning for the school play that I have ever heard. I just--wow. I am almost speechless at the logic involved here. First, because...I know we're strange about lawsuits in this country--see previous entry--but, seriously, has anyone ever heard of insisting that there has to be someone white in the cast of a high school play or the school might get sued for discrimination? I could maybe see it if there was a particular kid wanting that role and not getting it--and Mia would be an obvious choice to get paranoid about, actually, since she has a very rich guardian, although they'd more likely bring up the HIV thing than her skin color--but Mia isn't asking for the role. The drama coach is just preemptively concerned that they'll get sued if there are no white kids in the play. The hell? Second, how is it that Mia's friend knows who's going to play all the roles except this one? Are they not having auditions? And if they aren't, why is Mia talking about trying out for it? Third, while you can probably do "Chicago" without Roxie kissing anyone, Mia still seems like a rather surprising person for them to be this insistent on having in the school play; apparently no one involved has any concerns about a star who a) is HIV-positive (or have we gotten to the point where this wouldn't worry other teenagers? That would be nice) and b) has just had someone blow up her house. I'm just saying, I personally would have some qualms about standing next to her at this point.
--I like how everyone is staring at Mia's friend in her last panel. I'm pretty sure I'd stare at someone who struck that pose in the middle of the hall, as well.
--Okay, Mia is a bit paranoid, but as she points out, she has cause. I'm pleased to see she's paying attention, really. And that Ollie cares enough to want to see her safe. (And the "crush" joke felt unforced, which is not always the case with Judd Winick.)
--So...exactly what does Zatanna owe Ollie to make her willing to pretend to be a high-school student for three days? Just curious. *g*
--So the Arrowfolk are living in a sub-basement, and Mia pitches a fit because Ollie got her a bodyguard...and Connor tells her to shut up, because SOMEONE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE so they're all doomed anyway. Now...let me see, Connor Hawke, Connor Hawke... Would that be the same Connor Hawke with an arms-dealing stepfather who knows perfectly well who he is and who has tried to kill him more than once? And who had a running fight with one of the people hired to kill him through an apartment building he owned, while unmasked, pausing to mention to one of the tenants that he was her new landlord? And who was later refused insurance on the place because it was owned by a superhero? Why yes. Yes it is. How 'bout that?
*sighs* This is the wrong book for this. That's all it comes down to. There is just too much contradictory history for this to work; I'm willing to be flexible, I really am, but I cannot take seriously a story in which Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke panic because somebody knows their secret identities. Every reaction that Winick is trying to call up is completely drowned by hysterical laughter--and surely that's not what he wants? And the unfortunate thing is that there's nothing wrong with what they're doing. They're not overreacting; some unknown enemy just blew up their house, apparently just as a warning. It's perfectly reasonable to take that seriously--feel paranoid, go to ground, have someone watch over Mia, the whole bit. (Although I think it's a misjudgement to actually have JLAers in the book and make no suggestion that Ollie has asked them for help.) I could handle more generalized concern about having the bad guys know who they are; it would be a shift in attitude from Grell and Dixon, but nothing I couldn't work with. I could even deal with the guys wringing their hands about how loose they've been with their identities and god they've been stupid and now they're in real trouble because of it--it would not work at all with Ollie's attitudes in IDENTITY CRISIS, of course, but then that's the reason Ollie was such a bad choice of focus for that particular story in the first place. (Well, one reason.) So there are ways to make this work, but treating Ollie and Connor as if they were Clark Kent simply is not one of them, and it sabotages everything else in the story for me.
--And just as a side issue--so has Connor been staying in the hideout all this time? If so, he must be ready to start climbing the walls--yeah, Connor is better at sitting and waiting than a good seventy-five percent of the superheroic community, but knowing there's someone out there threatening his family and being stuck staying in and doing nothing about it is not at all his style. If he's stayed put, it's only to set a good example for Mia.
--Ah, Black Lightning. Which...concerns me. If Ollie has come to BL for his stated reasons, then that's...well, it's stupid. I don't care how paranoid the DCU is lately, is Ollie honestly that hard up for people he can trust to help out with this? It's not a complicated political thing, someone blew up his house! What, he thinks the JLA wouldn't help? Even given who he thinks it is, I don't see the problem; half the DCU seems to know about What They Did To Dr. Light, so it's not like there's no one else he can trust with his dark secret. Nor is Jeff the only one with "family on both sides of the line," not that I see why that should be a requirement. (And actually I'm kind of curious who this family is, given that Winick already murdered the niece; does Jeff have civilian family I'm unaware of?) But what I'm afraid of is that Ollie's come to Black Lightning because he figures that BL will look away while Ollie kills Light (or worse, do it himself), and--gah. I don't even know Black Lightning all that well--and most of what I know comes from fans of the character outraged at what Winick's done to him--but I know that he is not that guy. Bad enough that he committed one murder in this book, but if it's turned into a permanent characteristic... *whimper* Although I suppose there's some possibility of Ollie assuming that he'd look the other way and being totally wrong, but I really have no faith in Winick when it comes to Black Lightning. (Or anything else, lately, but I'm just saying.)
--And next month: nothing to do with any of this, as Green Arrow fights Solomon Grundy in the wreckage of his house! Because apparently Grundy has nothing better to do than follow Ollie around taking up residence where he used to live! Good lord. This was pretty random even back in ARCHER'S QUEST; doing it again is just bizarre. *shakes head in utter mystification*
--I have two thoughts about Zatanna on the cover: one, that costume doesn't usually come with garters, does it? And two, gee, her thighs are a little wider than a comic book woman's are generally permitted to be, aren't they? Really. Compare them with Ollie's. But I'm just nit-picking; this is really a lovely cover, and I would be ever so much happier if the inside art looked anything like it. The current art team on this book is portraying Connor not only as white but as ugly. I cannot help but feel that this is a crime against nature. (Side note: a completely different cover was shown in the solicitations for this book. I can't help but be amused that they changed it for a cover that's actually a spoiler, although not much of one.)
--Recap page: "There is Brick. The new crime boss of Star City. His activities occupied most of their time. Then a southern-fried android, dubbed the Duke of Oil entered the picture. Which was merely a ruse devised by Drakon...who was working for the Riddler." I admire Judd Winick's ability to type that with a straight face, I really do.
--I had totally forgotten everything about what was supposed to be in this issue, including that our heroes' house was blown up at the end of #50, so at the bottom of page one I was going, wow, did Star City throw them a parade? It still looks more like ticker-tape than flying debris to me.
--And then I turned the page and memory returned with a rush as I was smacked in the face with that picture, and much worse, that title. Oh, god. It's not "again," it's still, because they just won't let it drop, everything has to be retcons and death and betrayal and awfulness and doom and mass hysteria and cats and dogs living together and it can't even be cats and bats which would at least involve snark and hot sex but no-- *pause* Um. Right. Sorry about that. Back to the comic.
--So the house got blown up. It's totally a side issue, but that means all the stuff Ollie went around collecting in THE ARCHER'S QUEST got blown up too, right? Including that picture establishing that Ollie always knew about Connor? Right. Well, that's one potentially ticking bomb removed, then, although it's not as though Winick has been showing any signs of wanting to deal with that anyway. [ETA:
chiefseamonkey has pointed out that Ollie locked those things in a promethium-lined box at the end of AQ, so ignore this; the photo's still out there if anyone ever wants to use it, though I don't really expect them to.]--I think--I hope--that Connor and Mia are not meant to seem quite as unruffled by the destruction of their home as they come off. I think it's meant to be exhaustion and shock, not to mention that Connor in particular is disinclined to hysterics in the face of disaster--but what it actually looks like is that they're on drugs. "They blew up our digs?" "Yes." "Wild."
--Ollie's increasingly red-faced rage, however, worked for me totally, and the creative team is best advised to savor that statement, because I won't be saying it again about this issue. Ollie is inclined to hysterics in the face of just about anything--oh, all right, Ollie, passionate outbursts, is that better?--and this is a hell of a justification. Not just for putting the capper on a downright terrible week, not just for messing with his home, but because the thought burning behind his eyes right now is: *We could have been in there. They could have been in there.* And someone is going to pay dearly for making him imagine that.
--Okay, back to the snark. "Am I sure of what?" "That they were after Oliver Queen, not Green Arrow." Okay, I have tried and tried to make sense of this statement, and I have been forced to conclude that Winick just got it backwards. I mean, it's Oliver Queen's house that got blown up, and Oliver Queen in his civilian clothes who was walking towards it, so if the bad guys were after Oliver Queen then Green Arrow would never enter into it at all and Ollie would have a completely different problem than the one he's about to get upset about. Right? So basically, Winick just isn't paying attention. Good to know.
--Wow, everyone really is ugly in this art style. My poor Wally.
--Oh, god. I should have seen this coming, I know, but it still took me off-guard: Ollie assumes the Face Of Doom and in what is no doubt a hushed, portentous whisper, announces "Someone knows who I am!"
*Carmen bangs head against her computer screen* YES! Yes, people DO know who you are, Ollie, like, oh, half the population of Seattle! And the CIA! It was a running joke under Mike Grell that everybody who really wanted knew perfectly well who Green Arrow really was! Look, DC, I'm sorry, I get that you want me to have amnesia and pretend that none of that ever happened so you can go back to the whole "Secret Identity or Death!" setup, but no matter how much you want it, I can't make myself just not have read the entire previous GREEN ARROW series. For that matter I can't even make myself not have read the opening storyline of this series--you know, the part where it takes Mia about ten seconds to clue in as to who this Oliver Queen guy is? Granted she had better hints than most people are going to get, but still. There's also the fairly obvious point that if Ollie actually wanted to protect his secret ID, he'd do something about that very distinctive beard and mustache--I feel a little bad picking on that, because it's well within the limits of comic book logic that nobody notices that, but if they're going to get this melodramatic about the subject then I might as well. It's not like it hasn't been pointed out by many, many other people. *clutches at head* Aie. We will be returning to this subject, oh yes.
--Is anyone else kind of bewildered at Ollie calling the Batcave "Xanadu"? I know he's being flippant, but that seems like a really strange nickname for the place to me.
--How does this book fit in with OMAC PROJECT, anyway? Never mind, don't know, don't care. Anyway, while the Batman Exposition of Doom is still clunky (and I hope it's relevant, and that we're not just recapping IDENTITY CRISIS for the fun of it), I give Winick credit for remembering to give this moment to the only character it works for. This is still new information to Wally, and it's perfectly understandable that having Ollie and Bruce in the same room makes him think of it; it's much more sensible than it would be for Ollie, to whom it's old news that he presumably has dealt with.
--Ah, Mia's school experience. I was sort of cautiously optimistic about this scene, actually; I don't think we've ever seen Mia in school except for The HIV Presentation, and I have no objections to some idea as to what she does in the parts of her life that don't involve spandex. And surprisingly it has nothing at all to do with her health; instead we've got the most bizarre attempt to talk someone into auditioning for the school play that I have ever heard. I just--wow. I am almost speechless at the logic involved here. First, because...I know we're strange about lawsuits in this country--see previous entry--but, seriously, has anyone ever heard of insisting that there has to be someone white in the cast of a high school play or the school might get sued for discrimination? I could maybe see it if there was a particular kid wanting that role and not getting it--and Mia would be an obvious choice to get paranoid about, actually, since she has a very rich guardian, although they'd more likely bring up the HIV thing than her skin color--but Mia isn't asking for the role. The drama coach is just preemptively concerned that they'll get sued if there are no white kids in the play. The hell? Second, how is it that Mia's friend knows who's going to play all the roles except this one? Are they not having auditions? And if they aren't, why is Mia talking about trying out for it? Third, while you can probably do "Chicago" without Roxie kissing anyone, Mia still seems like a rather surprising person for them to be this insistent on having in the school play; apparently no one involved has any concerns about a star who a) is HIV-positive (or have we gotten to the point where this wouldn't worry other teenagers? That would be nice) and b) has just had someone blow up her house. I'm just saying, I personally would have some qualms about standing next to her at this point.
--I like how everyone is staring at Mia's friend in her last panel. I'm pretty sure I'd stare at someone who struck that pose in the middle of the hall, as well.
--Okay, Mia is a bit paranoid, but as she points out, she has cause. I'm pleased to see she's paying attention, really. And that Ollie cares enough to want to see her safe. (And the "crush" joke felt unforced, which is not always the case with Judd Winick.)
--So...exactly what does Zatanna owe Ollie to make her willing to pretend to be a high-school student for three days? Just curious. *g*
--So the Arrowfolk are living in a sub-basement, and Mia pitches a fit because Ollie got her a bodyguard...and Connor tells her to shut up, because SOMEONE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE so they're all doomed anyway. Now...let me see, Connor Hawke, Connor Hawke... Would that be the same Connor Hawke with an arms-dealing stepfather who knows perfectly well who he is and who has tried to kill him more than once? And who had a running fight with one of the people hired to kill him through an apartment building he owned, while unmasked, pausing to mention to one of the tenants that he was her new landlord? And who was later refused insurance on the place because it was owned by a superhero? Why yes. Yes it is. How 'bout that?
*sighs* This is the wrong book for this. That's all it comes down to. There is just too much contradictory history for this to work; I'm willing to be flexible, I really am, but I cannot take seriously a story in which Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke panic because somebody knows their secret identities. Every reaction that Winick is trying to call up is completely drowned by hysterical laughter--and surely that's not what he wants? And the unfortunate thing is that there's nothing wrong with what they're doing. They're not overreacting; some unknown enemy just blew up their house, apparently just as a warning. It's perfectly reasonable to take that seriously--feel paranoid, go to ground, have someone watch over Mia, the whole bit. (Although I think it's a misjudgement to actually have JLAers in the book and make no suggestion that Ollie has asked them for help.) I could handle more generalized concern about having the bad guys know who they are; it would be a shift in attitude from Grell and Dixon, but nothing I couldn't work with. I could even deal with the guys wringing their hands about how loose they've been with their identities and god they've been stupid and now they're in real trouble because of it--it would not work at all with Ollie's attitudes in IDENTITY CRISIS, of course, but then that's the reason Ollie was such a bad choice of focus for that particular story in the first place. (Well, one reason.) So there are ways to make this work, but treating Ollie and Connor as if they were Clark Kent simply is not one of them, and it sabotages everything else in the story for me.
--And just as a side issue--so has Connor been staying in the hideout all this time? If so, he must be ready to start climbing the walls--yeah, Connor is better at sitting and waiting than a good seventy-five percent of the superheroic community, but knowing there's someone out there threatening his family and being stuck staying in and doing nothing about it is not at all his style. If he's stayed put, it's only to set a good example for Mia.
--Ah, Black Lightning. Which...concerns me. If Ollie has come to BL for his stated reasons, then that's...well, it's stupid. I don't care how paranoid the DCU is lately, is Ollie honestly that hard up for people he can trust to help out with this? It's not a complicated political thing, someone blew up his house! What, he thinks the JLA wouldn't help? Even given who he thinks it is, I don't see the problem; half the DCU seems to know about What They Did To Dr. Light, so it's not like there's no one else he can trust with his dark secret. Nor is Jeff the only one with "family on both sides of the line," not that I see why that should be a requirement. (And actually I'm kind of curious who this family is, given that Winick already murdered the niece; does Jeff have civilian family I'm unaware of?) But what I'm afraid of is that Ollie's come to Black Lightning because he figures that BL will look away while Ollie kills Light (or worse, do it himself), and--gah. I don't even know Black Lightning all that well--and most of what I know comes from fans of the character outraged at what Winick's done to him--but I know that he is not that guy. Bad enough that he committed one murder in this book, but if it's turned into a permanent characteristic... *whimper* Although I suppose there's some possibility of Ollie assuming that he'd look the other way and being totally wrong, but I really have no faith in Winick when it comes to Black Lightning. (Or anything else, lately, but I'm just saying.)
--And next month: nothing to do with any of this, as Green Arrow fights Solomon Grundy in the wreckage of his house! Because apparently Grundy has nothing better to do than follow Ollie around taking up residence where he used to live! Good lord. This was pretty random even back in ARCHER'S QUEST; doing it again is just bizarre. *shakes head in utter mystification*
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Date: 2005-07-15 08:30 am (UTC)The only thing that occured to me that wasn't in your very excellent tirade is that, if I'm remembering Straight Shooter right, this isn't the first time IN WINICK'S RUN that a supervillain has invaded Ollie's house. Drakon did it, and as I recall, there were no SECRET IDENTITY histerics THEN.
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Date: 2005-07-15 02:01 pm (UTC)It's just so unbelievably stupid; I really should not be surprised, because the idea that Ollie actually has a secret identity has been in the books since Meltzer started writing him, but it's never been so spotlighted before (and this is the first time Connor got dragged into it). If it was handled with any remote sense of subtlety, or proportion, I might be more forgiving, but no, this is meant to be REALLY SCARY. Which, you know? Not happening.
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Date: 2005-07-15 08:59 am (UTC)I have largely enjoyed Winick on Batman, but it's good to know that he's not actually interested in giving up the crap. Keeps my hopes from rising too far.
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Date: 2005-07-15 01:31 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-07-15 01:25 pm (UTC)I have rage....
Date: 2005-07-15 05:48 pm (UTC)Unfortunately, we have come to a period when it has become the fashion to 'piss in the soup to improve the flavor'. (A vulgar metaphor, but one of clear function here. )
Fiction will survive, of course.
Sadly - the comic reading audience may not.
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Date: 2005-07-15 05:50 pm (UTC)Re: I have rage....
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Date: 2005-07-15 07:37 pm (UTC)And there's a line during the GA/GL crossover where Connor identifies himself to the authorities (I want to say D.E.O.) as "Green Arrow Connor Hawke."
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Date: 2005-07-15 10:50 pm (UTC)Ah, movie reference, that makes much more sense then--I was focusing on the poem and going "Pleasure dome? Ollie, what do you think goes on in the Batcave exactly?" *g*
And there's a line during the GA/GL crossover where Connor identifies himself to the authorities (I want to say D.E.O.) as "Green Arrow Connor Hawke."
Does he? *goes to check* He does indeed. That wasn't Winick's half of the crossover, but still--as late as that, they remembered that Connor can't keep a secret identity to save his life. There's no excuse for this, none at all.
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Date: 2005-07-15 10:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-17 04:29 am (UTC)And I immediately assumed Ollie wanted Black Lightning because of Ollie's Huge Crush on him.
Shouldn't this title have been freaking out about Rebirth and IC and OMAC long before this?
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Date: 2005-07-17 11:01 pm (UTC)Well, yeah, but the connotations are...kind of different. *g* If he's comparing Bruce to Citizen Kane, however, that works for me.
And I immediately assumed Ollie wanted Black Lightning because of Ollie's Huge Crush on him.
Yes! That makes infinitely more sense than his stated motivations, after all.
Shouldn't this title have been freaking out about Rebirth and IC and OMAC long before this?
But you don't understand! We had a Duke of Oil story to get to! Of course that took priority.
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