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Leah Adezio having reminded me about Garth's birthday, I celebrated by purchasing a reprint of his first appearance. (Actually I was going to do it anyway, but I thought the coincidence was pleasant.) And promptly disgraced the occasion by collapsing into giggles. "I'm deathly afraid of fish!" Oh dear. I'd forgotten about that part...

That said, once I'd got past the fish thing (and mind you that took several rereads), the underpinnings of this story are rather grim, although not quite as much so as later revised versions, and the details are different.

For example, the Atlanteans in this story have a perfectly sensible reason to get rid of kids with purple eyes: they're throwbacks who can't live undersea. However, dealing with the problem by sending them to the surface in capsules, apparently unaccompanied and undirected, has to me ominous notes of exposing unwanted babies on hillsides, and wouldn't seem to provide much more chance of survival. And Garth, who inexplicably can breathe water, is sent off as well (again, alone), because he's afraid of fish. (We will treat this with a straight face for the moment, as honestly it would be a fairly severe problem in Atlantis.) This is presented as "protecting" him, and I can see how the Atlanteans might have felt they were acting in his best interests. Except that Aquaman cures the phobia so fast that I'm sort of forced to conclude that it only continued to be a problem because nobody ever tried to help Garth with it. Garth doesn't say that, but he does say that his parents are dead, that nobody in Atlantis will miss him, and that he doesn't have anything to go back for, which certainly argues for no one having any time for him. (Also, while the only visual we ever get for how he was treated in Atlantis is his being held by a sympathetic man, it's pretty much impossible to imagine that he didn't get teased a lot.)

So what we have here is a very lonely orphan, cast out of his home for something which isn't his fault and which probably exposes him to great social stigma, latching immediately and passionately onto the first person to show him any kindness. (Mind you, Arthur comes off pretty well in this one, so I certainly understand Garth's enthusiasm. It's just that when the poor kid is saying that Arthur is like a father to him after one day, well...) In short, we have Aqualad. And forty years and much revising later, that's still pretty much what he looked like as a kid (only worse, because everything's got darker since then). He's matured a great deal, become stronger and more self-assured, but this is where he started. Poor thing.

Random comments on other stories:

--Roy only backs up my earlier point; his origin's got nastier with every iteration. Well, okay, Devin Grayson is not as mean as Elliot Maggin on certain points; she's a bit nicer about Ollie, although it may just be that he gets less screen time, and it would never occur to her to suggest that the Titans were an unpleasant environment for Roy. At least not if that were all she were going to say on the subject. But the theme of Roy's feelings of constant rejection, and specifically the casting of Roy leaving the reservation with Green Arrow as being thrown out, that's a new addition. Although interestingly Roy feeling like a failure is present even in the earliest version.

--Batgirl's origin. So *many* things I could say... Actually, it's not that bad; the Arrowette story is also here to remind me just how bad it can get for a woman inspired by a male hero. (Although I really like Dinah's cutting comment on that affair: "Maybe you're right. Crime-fighting certainly isn't an occupation for anyone stupid enough to model herself after you!") Yes, Babs wears a Bat-purse and tracks people by the scent of her perfume on them, but hey, it works. :) She's also portrayed as perfectly competent, even if pains are taken to show that B&R could have done fine without her, and displays both a love for the adrenaline rush and a genuine desire to protect and avenge the innocent. And in spite of a couple of unfortunate comments, she's ultimately commended by both Bruce and Jim. (Actually I think we've taken a step back from that, although I want to believe that it's Bruce's paranoia that's increased and not his sexism...) The line that made me choke, actually, was Dick: "Besides--she makes terrible puns!" Oh, honey, let me introduce you to the pot and kettle...

--The "Green Arrows of the World" concept is deeply, deeply silly. Even sillier than being deathly afraid of fish. I'm just saying.

--I am not going to fall for Firestorm. Or Manhunter (the Mark Shaw version, that is, that's a battle long lost on other fronts). And definitely not Captain Atom. Really. I'm not.

--There is, of course, no reason to believe that if the Waynes and Gordons intermarried at some point in the next thousand years, it would involve any of the current characters, or that the hypothetical descendant of a thousand years on would have any resemblance or relevance to them. Does this strike me as a beguiling idea anyway? Well...okay, yes. *g*

random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com
"--I am not going to fall for Firestorm. Or Manhunter (the Mark Shaw version, that is, that's a battle long lost on other fronts). And definitely not Captain Atom. Really. I'm not."

And all three are getting their own series soon...

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenygal.livejournal.com
...go away and do not tell me these things.

I can resist The New Firestorm without difficulty, my primary interest in Captain Atom is the people he hangs out with anyway, but Manhunter...oh dear. Any details?

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com
well-- apparently there will be two Manhunters in the series Mark Shaw and also a female manhunter and the two recent manhunters will make cameos as well... also Captain Atom is supposed to undergo radical changes as he comes to grips with all the things that happenned to him in the last few years

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenygal.livejournal.com
Well. I'm sunk, then, because I would buy Betty and Veronica if it had a Kirk DePaul cameo. (Know nothing about Chase Lawler and am entirely happy that way.) And in the context of a book about Mark Shaw...oh, I'm there. I don't even care if the woman's interesting (it would be nice, but...)

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com
lmao-- Did you see the underworld Unleashed Manhunter-- last issue of that particular run?

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenygal.livejournal.com
I only own one or two MANHUNTER issues from the first series (at the moment...my sales-resistance for back issues is low, low, low) and none of the second. Mainly I know Mark from his appearances in FLASH and SUICIDE SQUAD.

Is this an issue I should own?

Re: random comments in the night

Date: 2004-03-07 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com
Well they had set up another series after his folded, and in it, a big game hunter was in the wrong place at the wrong time and his greed freed tyhe wild hunt a group of faerie huntsmen who killed people whose time it was to die in gruesopme manners-- in order to stop them he killed the mainhuntsman and took on his form and powers but also he had tio kill the ones whiose time it was to die or watch them torn apart by the wild hunt and lose control of the hunt... when underworld unleashed happenned the powered up psycho pirate came after him and Mark Sahw showed up to save the day despite being presumed dead and retired... he took up the huntsman duties and dedicated himself to ending the wild hunt forever and that was the last episode...

Date: 2004-03-08 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerithwyn.livejournal.com
Was this multiple reprints in a single book? I might need to acquire a copy....

Date: 2004-03-08 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenygal.livejournal.com
It's a digest, DC SPECIAL BLUE RIBBON #9, so I don't know how easy it's going to be to find. I haven't got it with me at the moment, but working from memory it's got the origins of Atom, Batgirl, Krypto, Doctor Fate, Swamp Thing, Aqualad, Speedy, and Green Lantern's oath. (The Swamp Thing origin is the original non-Alec Holland short, which I thought was too bad because I've read it and I've never read the original Alec story. But this was probably a lot harder to find in 1980, plus shorter.) The Garth and Roy stories are short, don't get me wrong, and Garth's is totally noncanonical now, but they're there and I enjoyed them. (Brave Bow is dreadful, but in 1959 that's no surprise.)

For an extended version of Roy's origin, I think SECRET ORIGINS #38 is worth reading, although I don't know that I'm convinced by Ollie playing head games with Roy for no readily apparent reason (dragging him out to do the hero thing when he should be studying, however, I totally buy) and I'm not quite sure what Maggin was getting at with his treatment of the drug story.

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