Justice League
Oct. 13th, 2003 09:28 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
greenygalSlightly belated; oh well. First, for really detailed and enthusiastic posts about the episode go here and here. Plus, Wendi wrote a really sweet post-ep in her Wally/Chloe 'verse. Read, read.
First, yes, Dr. Destiny was fully as creepy as I was expecting, and given that the main place I know him from is Sandman that's saying rather a lot. The first dream, in particular, not only fooled me (I'd just started to say, wait, he can't actually do that when I realized what was really going on) but managed to leave an incredibly horrific image imprinted on my brain without showing a damn thing. *shivers*
And the basic setup provided a certain amount of mental confusion at the Watchtower--because on the one hand, Flash covering Hawkgirl up with that blanket may well be the cutest thing I have ever, ever seen, and I was definitely making "aww" noises at the TV, but on the other hand I knew that this was shortly going to lead to Really Bad Things. *clutches at head*
John Dee complaining that his name is too ordinary made me grin, since John Dee was a very notable scholar and occultist who served as Queen Elizabeth's astrologer. He probably doesn't know this, of course, and I have no idea if his creator did, but there are worse names to have.
I was so, so happy for the look inside the Leaguers' heads, and that they chose the particular candidates that they did--J'onn and Bats have fairly obvious nightmare images, and while I wouldn't mind detailing them, still, the others needed it more.
In particular, Flash. I have been grumbling for, well, virtually the entire series about the lack of depth given to the Flash (I like him, that's why I bitch), and so my jaw just about dropped when I realized that they were actually letting us into his head, and they were giving him a real, serious fear. Can I have more of this? Can I, oh please?
That said, am I being unreasonable to think that he would have done a little better against the horde of light-holograms than he did? Not being there when they try to hit you is, actually, one of the perks of superspeed. Oh, don't mind me, old grumblings.
The inclusion of Lois and Jimmy in Superman's dream made me perk up a bit. I have had certain theories (partly sparked by this) about the toll that Superman's guilt and his efforts to win back people's trust after the end of his series might have taken on his personal life, and specifically his relationship with Lois, in and out of costume. Failure to ever see each other when there wasn't a crisis to hand always was their big problem (okay, one of their big problems) and the Superman we saw in Secret Origins really did look like he'd been working overtime for a good long while, which leaves precious little time for a social life, the way he tends to go at it. Superman's dream here doesn't really address this one way or the other, mind you, except to suggest that whatever his relationship with Lois may be, it hasn't gotten to the secret-telling stage. But I am pleased to see that she and Jimmy are still strongly resident in his head, and that he at least dreams of having dinner with her. :)
Okay, GL now has a first and last name, a neighborhood he grew up in (those were the same characters in the dream that we saw in "In Blackest Night," right?), a former job, an old friend, and a home. (Not much of one, and he wasn't kidding when he said he didn't have much besides the clothes on his back, but a home.) Lord knows I'm not complaining, but I think it's time he shared the spotlight, don't you? :) Certain other characters (*koff*Flash*koff*) could stand to have some off-duty attention.
The feminist part of me is a teensy bit annoyed that Hawkgirl is the only character who doesn't get to fight off her fears and beat up the bad guy. I'm prepared to live with it, because it's not as though she's normally a weak character who needs to be rescued a lot, and because she had a very physical fear that didn't make for such good psychological fodder as defeating Superman's and GL's did. Still. Annoyed place in the back of my brain.
On the other hand, that was a good scene with Copperhead. Yeah, what bluff? :) Seriously, with some other character--Joker, say--that would impress me more as potentially-suicidal lunacy, but in the case of Copperhead it's just practicality--this is not a guy prepared to kill himself, even if GL hadn't shown up just at that moment. Not complaining; I likepractical, and her dry "You didn't think this through, did you?" made me snicker.
You know, cute as that last image was (uh, on the Watchtower, not Dee), really, oughtn't somebody to be getting poor Bats to an actual bed? He does enough damage to himself without needing to be sleeping in chairs. Then again, maybe I'm just enjoying the image of Clark lifting a sleeping Bruce in his arms and carrying him gently over to a soft bed and maybe even tucking him in...okay, perhaps I'm overdoing it, but I really can see Clark picking him up, and isn't it pretty? :)
First, yes, Dr. Destiny was fully as creepy as I was expecting, and given that the main place I know him from is Sandman that's saying rather a lot. The first dream, in particular, not only fooled me (I'd just started to say, wait, he can't actually do that when I realized what was really going on) but managed to leave an incredibly horrific image imprinted on my brain without showing a damn thing. *shivers*
And the basic setup provided a certain amount of mental confusion at the Watchtower--because on the one hand, Flash covering Hawkgirl up with that blanket may well be the cutest thing I have ever, ever seen, and I was definitely making "aww" noises at the TV, but on the other hand I knew that this was shortly going to lead to Really Bad Things. *clutches at head*
John Dee complaining that his name is too ordinary made me grin, since John Dee was a very notable scholar and occultist who served as Queen Elizabeth's astrologer. He probably doesn't know this, of course, and I have no idea if his creator did, but there are worse names to have.
I was so, so happy for the look inside the Leaguers' heads, and that they chose the particular candidates that they did--J'onn and Bats have fairly obvious nightmare images, and while I wouldn't mind detailing them, still, the others needed it more.
In particular, Flash. I have been grumbling for, well, virtually the entire series about the lack of depth given to the Flash (I like him, that's why I bitch), and so my jaw just about dropped when I realized that they were actually letting us into his head, and they were giving him a real, serious fear. Can I have more of this? Can I, oh please?
That said, am I being unreasonable to think that he would have done a little better against the horde of light-holograms than he did? Not being there when they try to hit you is, actually, one of the perks of superspeed. Oh, don't mind me, old grumblings.
The inclusion of Lois and Jimmy in Superman's dream made me perk up a bit. I have had certain theories (partly sparked by this) about the toll that Superman's guilt and his efforts to win back people's trust after the end of his series might have taken on his personal life, and specifically his relationship with Lois, in and out of costume. Failure to ever see each other when there wasn't a crisis to hand always was their big problem (okay, one of their big problems) and the Superman we saw in Secret Origins really did look like he'd been working overtime for a good long while, which leaves precious little time for a social life, the way he tends to go at it. Superman's dream here doesn't really address this one way or the other, mind you, except to suggest that whatever his relationship with Lois may be, it hasn't gotten to the secret-telling stage. But I am pleased to see that she and Jimmy are still strongly resident in his head, and that he at least dreams of having dinner with her. :)
Okay, GL now has a first and last name, a neighborhood he grew up in (those were the same characters in the dream that we saw in "In Blackest Night," right?), a former job, an old friend, and a home. (Not much of one, and he wasn't kidding when he said he didn't have much besides the clothes on his back, but a home.) Lord knows I'm not complaining, but I think it's time he shared the spotlight, don't you? :) Certain other characters (*koff*Flash*koff*) could stand to have some off-duty attention.
The feminist part of me is a teensy bit annoyed that Hawkgirl is the only character who doesn't get to fight off her fears and beat up the bad guy. I'm prepared to live with it, because it's not as though she's normally a weak character who needs to be rescued a lot, and because she had a very physical fear that didn't make for such good psychological fodder as defeating Superman's and GL's did. Still. Annoyed place in the back of my brain.
On the other hand, that was a good scene with Copperhead. Yeah, what bluff? :) Seriously, with some other character--Joker, say--that would impress me more as potentially-suicidal lunacy, but in the case of Copperhead it's just practicality--this is not a guy prepared to kill himself, even if GL hadn't shown up just at that moment. Not complaining; I likepractical, and her dry "You didn't think this through, did you?" made me snicker.
You know, cute as that last image was (uh, on the Watchtower, not Dee), really, oughtn't somebody to be getting poor Bats to an actual bed? He does enough damage to himself without needing to be sleeping in chairs. Then again, maybe I'm just enjoying the image of Clark lifting a sleeping Bruce in his arms and carrying him gently over to a soft bed and maybe even tucking him in...okay, perhaps I'm overdoing it, but I really can see Clark picking him up, and isn't it pretty? :)
